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Structuring Classroom Talk to Improve Student Literacy (Nelson Graff) - Shared screen with speaker view
Lori Campbell
22:20
Hi Nelson! I am excited to be here!
Nelson Graff
22:42
Hi, Lori! Thank you! I'm excited to have you here.
Nelson Graff
23:00
Hello, all. We'll start soon. Just giving folks a few minutes to join.
Tim Corfman
23:02
Hello, from Tim in Tehachapi
char lindemulder
23:21
Hi from Chino Hills
Tabitha Kappeler-Hurley
23:23
Hi Everyone from Tabitha in San Jose
Lori Campbell
23:24
I’m from Bakersfield.
Natalie Affleck
23:37
Hello from Rancho Cordoba
Michelle Bianco
23:39
Hi Michelle currently in MONTANA!
Mariam Ogle
23:39
Hello from Fresno, I’m so excited to hear April speak!
Jennifer Fletcher
23:40
Hello, everyone! Jennifer from Seaside.
Amy Sutherland
23:53
Hello from Ellensburg, WA :-).
Lori Campbell
23:53
Bakersfield, CA
Jennifer Vermillion
24:07
Howdy! Jennifer From San Jose, CA 🙂
Karina Herrera
24:10
Hello from Los Angeles, CA
Anne Porterfield
24:11
Hello from Oakland, CA!
Nelson Graff
24:13
Hi, all. Nelson Graff. I teach first-year writing and writing across the curriculum. I'm coming from the unceded territory of the Coastanoan-Essalen tribe
Elizabeth Burgos
24:14
Hello from Liz in Arlington, Virginia
Debra Robinson
24:21
Welcome to today’s webinar. Please provide us with your name and the city where you’re located.
Jose Solis
24:25
Hello Mrs. Robinson, Jose Solis from ESUHSD MP.
Emily Jackson
24:28
Hello, From Emily in Tehachapi
Karina Herrera
24:36
Karina Herrera, Los Angeles
Sarah Eicher
24:40
Hello from Bakersfield, CA!
Andrew Ashford
24:41
Hi! Andrew from Santa Ana, California
Glen McClish
24:41
Glen McClish from unseasonably warm San Diego.
Damian Corradino
24:42
Damian Corradino - Santa Ana
Charles Brinton
24:43
Hello from Charles in San Francisco!
Susan Frediani
24:52
Susan Frediani, Quincy, CA
Mariam Ogle
24:56
And the conference will be a opportunity to see everyone in person too :)
Mohamed Algarmi
24:57
Hello from Hayward and Fremont
Alicia Ruiz
24:58
Hello, Alicia from San Diego.
Debra Robinson
24:58
Hello Jose. Welcome.
Trevor Harden
25:01
Trevor Harden- Chino Hills
Adam Smith
25:06
Hello, Adam from Bellflower, CA
Mike Console
25:07
Hey all, Mike from Canoga Park, CA
Jennifer Vermillion
25:16
Hi Ms. Debra!!!! 💕
Lynda Dubon-Chavez
25:19
ERWC Online Community: writing.csusuccess.org
Suzanne Pruden
25:20
Suzanne, teaching in Santa Ana. :-)
Angela Amador
25:23
Hello, Angie from Los Angeles, CA
O Joseph Calabrese
25:32
Greetings from San Jose California! :-)
Lynda Dubon-Chavez
25:37
To submit your proposal, please visit:https://calstate.infoready4.com/#competitionDetail/1863952Please register and search for: 2022 ERWC Literacy Conference.
Jennifer Fletcher
25:49
What a great group! So nice to see everyone. Thanks for joining us!🙂
Debra Robinson
25:54
Threw me off my game when I saw you sign in. Hello!!!!
Jose Solis
26:14
Hello, all. José, from San José
Mohamed Algarmi
26:21
Hello Prof. Graff, former student of yours turned teacher. I just wanted to give you a big shout out and thank you for all your support
Nelson Graff
26:47
Hello, Mohamed! Great to see you here.
Mariam Ogle
26:52
I’m ready to take lots of notes! I feel like this is so needed
Jennifer Roberts
27:02
Jen Roberts from San Diego CA.
Anna Chee
27:43
Hello, Anna Chee from LA.
Sharon Fernandes
27:45
Good afternoon, from NorCal--Redding, CA
Christina Clark
27:57
Christina Clark from Huntington Park HS (LAUSD)
char lindemulder
28:06
Char Lindemulder, Chino Hills
Jessie Davidson
28:10
Hi-- Jessie in San Francisco
Kumiko Williams
28:16
Kumi Williams AUSD
Al Schleicher
28:24
Al in San Diego
Nelson Graff
28:36
Slideshow https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oIEb-VzbwoTkgLzUSnJ_C1T9OICLyoH3/view?usp=sharing
Mira-Lisa Katz
28:49
Mira Katz in Monterey County
char lindemulder
29:15
I don’t see the link
Nelson Graff
29:20
Slideshow https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oIEb-VzbwoTkgLzUSnJ_C1T9OICLyoH3/view?usp=sharing
Nelson Graff
29:27
Slideshow https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oIEb-VzbwoTkgLzUSnJ_C1T9OICLyoH3/view?usp=sharing
Tabitha Kappeler-Hurley
30:23
Love the quote!
Michelle Bianco
30:33
Love that whole book!
Amy Sutherland
32:09
Amy Sutherland - I teach BTCE at Ellensburg in WA.
Sharon Fernandes
32:24
Sharon Fernandes
Sharon Fernandes
32:54
Sharon Fernandes
char lindemulder
34:12
Whomever is doing the most talking is learning the most
Jennifer Vermillion
38:05
I love the clarification of what constitutes “don’t be disrespectful”
Jennifer Fletcher
38:09
This is a great activity.
Michelle Bianco
40:10
Complexity
Mira-Lisa Katz
40:12
A question that has more than one answer.
Lori Campbell
40:14
A question that will elicit a unique answer for each person involved in the discussion.
Tarn Wilson
40:14
Debatable with rich, nuances opportunities
Christina Elliott
40:14
One that has various entry points for all students and multiple views.
Shianne Grantham
40:14
It is neutral and doesn't lend to an answer
Debra Robinson
40:14
Can’t be answered yes, no, or maybe.
Tabitha Kappeler-Hurley
40:14
Open ended
Natalie Affleck
40:14
Something with room for many different types of answers
Jennifer Roberts
40:14
Everyone can respond at some level
Anna Chee
40:14
has no right or wrong answer
Angela Amador
40:14
The invitation to interpret freely
Darlene Kriesel
40:15
open ended
Sharon Fernandes
40:15
Multiiple correct responses
Alicia Ruiz
40:15
It does not have a definitive answer.
Rob Driscoll
40:15
Anything that does not require a simple yes/no response.
char lindemulder
40:16
Arguable, complex
Angelina Venturelli
40:16
A question that can be debated or seen from different perspectives
Wendy Savinar
40:16
The question is robust and worthy os students thinking
Jennifer Fletcher
40:17
Supports multiple angles of approach; isn’t a leading question
Michelle Morales
40:17
Something that has multiple answers and understandings
Suzanne Pruden
40:18
Multiple entry points to the conversation
Damian Corradino
40:18
Able to be argued
Sarah Eicher
40:19
no right or wrong answer
Amy Sutherland
40:21
A good discussion question is one that is complex enough to allow students to wrestle with it.
Tim Corfman
40:21
It is intrigueing
Glen McClish
40:22
Good questions stimulate a range of responses, rather than a toggle switch approach.
Jennifer Vermillion
40:23
Debatablek, complex,
Susan Frediani
40:24
Why, how, for what purpose, etc … no yes/no answers
Andrew Ashford
40:24
if it gets multiple responses
Adam Smith
40:25
A good discussion question would be a question not easily answerable
Raquel Topete
40:26
Thought-provoking, multi entry points
Charles Brinton
40:28
Open ended
Jason Crabbe
40:30
Open ended
Corry Dodson
40:30
multiple people can contribute
Jessie Davidson
40:32
questioner can't anticipate answer
Karina Herrera
40:33
room for diverse opinions
Al Schleicher
40:38
Art Costa’s Levels of Inquiry
Mohamed Algarmi
40:39
Costa's levels of questioning (level3).
Elizabeth Burgos
40:40
Invites many perspectives
Katrina Miles
40:40
A good open-ended discussion question solicits multiple perspectives with multiple potential answers
Felipe Garcia
40:58
Questions with "How" and "Why"
Maria Gonzalez
40:58
A question in which many people can contribute in a constructive way.
Jefferylynn Davis
42:12
Hello Debra!👋🏽
Wendy Savinar
43:57
Critical Literacy Framework
Elizabeth Burgos
44:00
Question Formulation Technique
Adam Smith
44:03
What surprised you?
Andrew Ashford
44:06
QFT
Michelle Morales
44:14
Questioning technique
Andrew Ashford
44:14
yes
Amy Sutherland
44:15
To what extent…?
Mariam Ogle
44:19
Yes QFT is what I’ve used a lot as well
Susan Frediani
44:20
What do you notice? What do you wonder?
Ander Lucia
44:23
Surprising, interesting, troubling
char lindemulder
44:23
Yes, QFT works well
Angela Amador
44:24
Another vote for Costa’s and QFT
Mariam Ogle
44:33
Yes question formulation technique
Elizabeth Burgos
44:35
Paul's Reasoning Model
char lindemulder
45:06
Buy in
Mariam Ogle
45:12
Intrinsic motivation
Wendy Savinar
45:13
It centers and uplifts their voices
Mohamed Algarmi
45:16
Pride in ownership
Lori Campbell
45:16
You can see the direction the learning is going.
Amy Sutherland
45:18
Different perspectives
Elizabeth Burgos
45:20
Develops student agency
Tabitha Kappeler-Hurley
45:22
Really neat perspectives and show what they are wondering about
Mira-Lisa Katz
45:23
They are doing the thinking
Christina Elliott
45:26
authenticity
Shianne Grantham
45:27
ownership of learning
Glen McClish
45:29
Practicing agency.
Anne Porterfield
45:31
They may be more interested in the answers!
char lindemulder
45:34
Students formulating the questions shows us their understanding as well
Mariam Ogle
45:34
Empowering students
Jason Crabbe
45:35
Perspective
Mohamed Algarmi
45:45
They write better questions than me
Maria Gonzalez
45:51
Authentic language communication
Mohamed Algarmi
45:55
sometimes
Mariam Ogle
46:14
lol so true Mohammed for them it is because they understand it better
Debra Robinson
46:43
Hi JeffreyLynn. Thank you for joining us.
char lindemulder
47:08
Praise behavior, but scaffold engagement
char lindemulder
48:15
Yes, thanks for your contribution, but respond with “what else,” “how does your perspective connect to,” and “what else?”
Mariam Ogle
48:24
Like specifically point out process positive behavior?
char lindemulder
49:02
When responses are scaffolded, eventually students do this with each other
Katrina Miles
49:17
Perhaps acknowledging how one student connected to a peer or used the text to support their points supports behavior and provides scaffolding?
char lindemulder
49:25
Equity cards hlep
char lindemulder
49:29
*help
Lori Campbell
49:36
I use, “When you say,….. you remind me that….
Katrina Miles
49:43
Equity cards??
Katrina Miles
50:09
Yes, I use the cards and the sticks.
Amy Sutherland
50:13
How do you overcome that obstacle of when students don’t want to talk because they anticipate your response?
char lindemulder
50:16
Cold calling with a pair share prior (a rehearsal) helps with process, building community, etc. Research doesn’t support straight cold calling
Amy Sutherland
50:39
I sympathize! :-)
Lori Campbell
51:10
If you use online discussion boards first, they can practice writing responses and get a feel for the tone in the class.
Michelle Morales
51:16
Yes, Char, giving them time to think together gives them confidence with what they are going to say.
Annette Thomey
51:45
I think that if you give students a chance to discuss, then cold call and allow them to share their own thoughts or the ideas of others, it gives them an opportunity to listen better and give a mixed answer.
char lindemulder
52:07
@Annette, agreed
Jennifer Vermillion
52:48
I love framing your role as a “traffic director”
Mariam Ogle
52:56
And it holds them accountable for sharing and listening
Michelle Morales
53:03
I like uptake. I think that is definitely where I can improve.
Maria Gonzalez
53:58
research topic a bit before conversation happens
Mariam Ogle
54:08
Love that you talk about your communication choices during a webinar on communication
Andrew Ashford
54:16
I have done 4 corners
Karina Herrera
54:38
How do student led options look like in an ELD classroom?
Shianne Grantham
55:49
I have beginners and they really like these types of discussions. We us lots of sentence frames
Shianne Grantham
55:53
*use
Shianne Grantham
56:08
Shy-anne, you got it :)
Debra Robinson
56:21
A good source for ideas to be used in ELD classrooms can be found in Jeff Ziers’ book on Academic Conversations.
Karina Herrera
56:50
Thanks Debra!
Debra Robinson
56:57
Conversation placemats are a Ziers strategy.
Jennifer Fletcher
58:03
There’s also Next Steps with Academic Conversations by Jeff Zwiers.
Michelle Morales
59:17
I like the first/last word for fostering all students talking and listening in a group when discussing a reading
Dharwati Blackwood
59:20
I arrived late. Sorry! Where shall we find the pdf with linked files?
Nelson Graff
59:31
Slideshow https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oIEb-VzbwoTkgLzUSnJ_C1T9OICLyoH3/view?usp=sharing
Dharwati Blackwood
59:41
Thanks!
char lindemulder
01:01:50
Positive interdependence
Lonee Lona
01:02:55
forgive me, where did you say the circle activity is? Sounds like a great strategy
Lonee Lona
01:03:04
oh thank yo
Lonee Lona
01:03:07
you
Lonee Lona
01:03:41
absolutely buying that book—thanks for the rec
Andrew Ashford
01:03:55
some of my best lessons are stolen...
Tabitha Kappeler-Hurley
01:04:15
My kids love this activity
Lori Campbell
01:04:42
I’ve had some interesting responses with this one.
Mariam Ogle
01:09:47
That is beautiful, and they always notice that you know they can. they just need help seeing it themselves
Lonee Lona
01:11:16
love. this.
Jennifer Fletcher
01:12:07
You can also find the High Impact Strategies Toolkit in the ERWC Online Community with the overview documents under the 3.0 tab.
Debra Robinson
01:12:37
REMINDER: Join us on April 20th at 4 pm as we welcome Maneka Brooks who will share research-based strategies for working with students designated LTEL—Long-term English Learners.
Annette Thomey
01:13:55
Thank you. After teaching for 27 years, I love reminders about how we can help our students learn better.
Jennifer Fletcher
01:14:18
This was wonderful, Nelson!
Dharwati Blackwood
01:14:33
Do you provide the Broken Circles activity?
Anna Chee
01:14:35
Thank you so much for sharing so useful ideas and strategies!!!
Anna Chee
01:14:51
I have to leave to teach a class.
Dharwati Blackwood
01:14:58
Is it in Cohen’s
Sarah Eicher
01:15:06
thank you! Great things to apply!
Marisol Hood
01:15:12
Can you share the group work protocols with us?
Dharwati Blackwood
01:15:13
Thanks
Shianne Grantham
01:15:15
Thank you so much for your time and ideas!
Jennifer Vermillion
01:15:17
Good tip on the PDF- thank you
Jennifer Fletcher
01:15:17
Nelson also has a great podcast episode on the ERWC blog (ERWC.blog).
eddie lavelle
01:15:22
Thank you!
Michelle Morales
01:15:23
Can you put the link for the next webinar in the chat?
Wendy Savinar
01:15:26
Thank you so much
Adam Smith
01:15:26
Thanks for the book recommendation. I'll check it out! Great ideas to think about today
Alicia Ruiz
01:15:31
Thank you so much. These are great ideas.
char lindemulder
01:15:36
Here’s a link to the book on Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/Designing-Groupwork-Strategies-Heterogeneous-Classroom/dp/0807755664/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3JSXXIO62LWU4&keywords=designing+groupwork+cohen+%26+lotan&qid=1648078987&sprefix=designing+groupwork+cohen+%26+lotan%2Caps%2C204&sr=8-1
Tarn Wilson
01:15:37
That was really excellent. Thank you. I’m looking forward to exploring the links on the sidedeck
Alisa Klink
01:15:37
Thank you for all you do for ERWC!!!
Michelle Morales
01:15:42
Great webinar thank you!
Debra Robinson
01:15:47
darobin42@gmail.com
Charles Brinton
01:15:47
Thank you, Nelson! Always a pleasure hearing your ideas and insight!
Lori Campbell
01:15:50
Thank you so much!
char lindemulder
01:15:52
Thank you, Nelson!
Rebecca Penrose
01:15:57
Thank you so much!
Kumiko Williams
01:15:58
Thanks so much
Tim Corfman
01:16:00
What have you done to enable immunocompromised students to participate in small group during the pandemic?
Nelson Graff
01:16:04
https://complexinstruction.stanford.edu/about/Equity-in-Cooperative-Learning-Classrooms
Amy Sutherland
01:16:24
Thank you!
Mariam Ogle
01:16:55
Is this the circle game? https://mathequalslove.net/broken-circles/Looks like it
char lindemulder
01:17:40
A rehearsal before calling on the student helps
Nelson Graff
01:18:01
Yes, that's the broken circles activity.
Christina Elliott
01:18:09
Maybe letting student know in advance of a topic or entry point in discussion will reduce insecurity to participate
char lindemulder
01:18:25
I also have students who do this link what they’ve said to what someone else has said with follow-up questions
eddie lavelle
01:18:31
Is it so bad when students feed each other?
Stella Alford
01:18:41
Thank you Mr. Graff, for a powerful Lecture.
Dharwati Blackwood
01:18:52
I allow that and ask for a further explanation
Jennifer Roberts
01:18:56
When you call on a distracted student ask them something you know they can answer. You want to draw them back in not play gotcha. A few minutes later when they are back in the conversation you can ask them another question.
Kumiko Williams
01:19:05
perhaps asking students to give classmate credit? and
Debra Robinson
01:19:10
Thank you all for attending. We look forward to seeing you next month.
Lori Campbell
01:19:10
This is another plug for discussion boards. Even in a F2F classroom, they can be used to start a live discussion the next day.
Katrina Miles
01:19:23
We will be finishing the last quarter by reading two novels, which will allow students to choose the book they prefer. I would like to incorporate separate discussions so everyone can benefit from both . novels; would you recommend alternating the discussion days or something else??
Kumiko Williams
01:19:31
adding continuing ideas
Mariam Ogle
01:19:45
Nice Jenn! I like it - or them having a resource they can have time to check and then contribute
char lindemulder
01:20:03
Jamboard
Christina Elliott
01:20:04
Masked and outdoors
char lindemulder
01:20:10
More of asynchronous conversations
Dharwati Blackwood
01:20:21
Discussion boards as on Canvas
Jefferylynn Davis
01:20:23
Thank you, Nelson!
char lindemulder
01:20:29
Thank you!!!
Jennifer Vermillion
01:20:30
Thank you!
Christina Clark
01:20:31
thank you!
Mariam Ogle
01:20:34
Thank you!
Elizabeth Burgos
01:20:35
Thank you so much
Dharwati Blackwood
01:20:38
Great reminder of great strategies
Julie Krofta
01:20:38
thank you!
Jordan Banner
01:20:39
Thank you!
Corry Dodson
01:20:41
Thanks to Nelson and to everyone who gave me some good ideas!
Christina Elliott
01:20:42
Thank you, Mrl Graff.
Angela Amador
01:20:47
Thank you!
Mira-Lisa Katz
01:20:47
Thanks, Nelson!!
Darlene Kriesel
01:20:49
thank you!
Sengge Dorje
01:20:49
Thank you !