What school, Jennifer?

Pacific HS—one year. 🙂

My husband graduated from Pacifica

Neat connection! My cousins went there.

LOVING ALL YOUR BANNERS :)

Live or virtual?

In person, yay.

Hi Marty!!

That's where I grew up and my bro went to school! :)

The book is awesome!

👏

Love _Between the Commas_!

yay English teachers!

Just the grading is daunting; teaching writing is enjoyable

I agree Charlene. Love the teaching!

I agree Charlene. Love the teaching!

I wonder if the SF State class was with Catherine Lucas??? I learned a lot from her!

Char Lindemulder, Chino Hills HS (sent the roll call text to the wrong group 🙁)

For roll call -- Meline Akashian at Temecula Middle

Mariam Ogle Fresno here :)

#1 problem is students don't believe they can ever learn to write well. So they give up.

Hello from Jlynn Davis and Julie Royal East Side Union High School District.☺️

Randy Melton from Prospect High School, Campbell Union High School District

Raymond Endow from Gardena Senior High School, LAUSD

Clare Chatfield from Del Mar High in CUHSD. Hi Randy!

Good afternoon from Chris Garcia at Silver Creek High School, East Side Union High School District

Denise Rawlings Village Academy Hs Pomona Ca

Love these three pillars. I can see their practical application already.

Norma Contreras, Village Academy, Pomona, CA

I have not yet read the book, so this is great.

Thank you for the overview, I have not read the book.

Mark Kavanagh

Tracey Anderson from Florin High School (

Elk Grove Unified

Mark Kavanagh, Los Angeles. Will definitely get the book.

Josh Wright Juniper Elementary Redding CA. Thank you spent some years at SF State myself.

Will have to leave, I’m afraid. Thank you Marty, I look forward to seeing the recording and reading the book!

Alejandra from Mt. San Antonio Community College in Walnut

That has been my experience: they try to please us and comply.

What’s the title of the book being referenced?

The book is Democracy in America.

Marty’s book is _Between the Commas_ from Heinemann.

snickerdish

Widgets!

And I still have Open House tonight!

It’s fascinating!

What other ways to help them with that 1st sentence?

Some don’t have creativity for a “hook” yet

I think part of the issue is that students try to put the thesis into only 1 sentence when they may need a few sentences. Do you find that true as well?

^ yes

Image Grammar includes a great lesson for developing effective leads.

All of you teachers and presenters rock!! Bless you all!! :-)

Yes Charlene. Definitely.

Your topic must be one sentence. Your thesis must be one sentence. It must be at the beginning of the paragraph. You cannot start a sentence with "because." Every essay must be exactly 5 paragraphs long. So many pseudo-rules!

You had me at phrases

How do we begin to reprogram our students’ writing habits?

These phrases & clauses make writing come alive!

Image Grammar is by Harry Noden, and my students’ writing improves some every year when I use it— for leads and other descriptive techniques.

^ Thanks!

Helpful source: "Sentence Composing for High School" by Don Killgallon

Yes, Christina, that’s such a helpful source.

Yes, all the Killgallon books are crazy useful for all levels.

The Killgallon series has great sentence combining activities as well

I will be using the Left Parenthetical Right graphic organizer tomorrow. thanks for this.

Yay!

^ is this available somewhere?

Yep :)

I’m here

Still here.

Yes!

Still here!

Great stuff

Yes, but it’s helpful to begin with a model

I always do because it's funnier that way.

That’s your book

Haha I was just going to ask if you have digital copies of any of the exercises in the book.

yes

Yes

yes! has to be authentic to the teaching moment

Yes, this is great I am wondering about using text to speech somewhere in here to help them make the speech complexity to text complexity connections

Get students to pick cool sentences as they read whatever book you are in, and use them to collectively analyze what makes that sentence so cool. Then use it for modeling.

^ I use student writing as my models and do this. Praise the positive moves some are already doing.

Yes Meline woven into whatever we are working with

Yes, student find the “golden lines” in their writing to share. Text-to-text with eRWC

I, likewise, type up golden lines from student essays & we talk about them when we discuss class feedback. Great way for students to see how many people express similar ideas.

This is fabulous! I need to leave early for another commitment.

I’ve noted your question Mariam.

lol

I get it.

Error is an indication that there’s movement in the learning

Hehe....I'm in danger!

I failed English? UMPOSSIBLE!

I think I got that wrong haha. But close enough.

I get your jokes and connections, but I am of a certain age. lol

Also, can’t we argue that it’s not an error, it’s a matter of writing style? if that student was an author, we would not question that second example

Many of my students have difficulty detecting comma splices. If I point them out, they can fix them

I have another meeting. But thank you.

Are these inventive names for phrases in the book as well?

Yes they are.

How much time do spend at the sentence level each semester?

*do you

Whoa! That hour went fast! Thanks!

Good question.

Yes Debra exactly

I have a student who prefers speech-to-text so he can show what he knows…without the writing hinderance

Post Covid-crisis instruction- How do we begin to reprogram our students’ writing habits?

Do you find your students being able to independently point out those author moves when they come across them in their readings?

You mentioned you’re in a blog? Is there a community attached to it?

So much better writing, and I can see him apply the sentence structure I am teaching.

Thanks!

Thank you! Great stuff! ;-)

He has vision and writing processing issues.

Do you see a place for platforms like Quill?

Do you get push back from your department with the names of syntax you use with kids?

Great presentation! Thank you!!

Thank you for all the great examples!

I love the new names for grammar moves it gives students power and ownership over it

Helpful information and fodder for the remainder of this year and beyond.

Post-Covid crisis instruction: How do we begin to reprogram our students’ writing habits?

Thank you so much for sharing your strategies! they are great!

Thank you!

Common language in the English Dept. is very helpful, but not absolutely necessary.

Wanted to say hi! Great webinar! Miss you 🙂

Thank you. This was an awesome presentation👏

@Sherry, good question

Thank you! I was wondering the same question.

Thank you Marty! This was great. Really enjoyable.

Thank you!!!

I’m in the same department with Marty. Lol!

We were just talking about how often grammar instruction happens annually without it really being "owned" by kids. It seems like this offers them a basic sentence as the schema for which students hang new learning on.

Unrelated to the subject, when. Did Jonathan Lovell pass away?

What do you think about Quill.com?

They will be ready for the precise word later when they are familiar and can introduce both together

Thank you!

how can we get the recording of this presentation?

Thank you!

Thank you

Thank you!

Thank you, Marty! Awesome way to spend Thursday afternoon!

What a great way to spend an hour!! Thank you!

Thank you

Thank you!!

Thank you—really needed to take some time to think about this.

Thank you so much for this opportunity :)

Sorry to hgerR

Thank you.

Thank you so much!

HEAR

I appreciate your focus on craft!

So good to see you here!

Thanks. So worth the visit!

Thank you--that was great.

We should preface our questions with ??? or something to make it easier to see. Oh well, too late!

Will we be able to get the recording?

Thank you!

Sorry, really wondering about your thoughts about Quill.com

THis was excellent!

Thank you!

Thank you so much!

Thanks!

grammar writing

can you unmute me

I use quill.org and I like it

-Sheri had a question

??? Next week is about difficult discussions in the classroom? Please tell me more.

Thank you!! Debra thank you for sending the correct link

Hi Marlene, please email me at darobin42@gmail.com, and I will make sure you receive information on the session.

Sheri Zoratti- what was your question? About prefacing questions

Post-Covid Crisis Instruction Q: How do we begin to “reprogram” our students’ writing habits?

will we be able to rewatch this recording?

Thank you!

I have used NoRedInk to help students with sentence structure, but I get to read their work in the quick write section.

Yes, Sherry!

Thanks

Awesome thank you for letting us record and watch again later!

ERWC started me on my quest to teach grammar. Many years ago. It was presented that a survey of college professors indicated that the #1 things college professors wishes high school teachers would teach us grammar.

That is so true about not a lot of instruction in writing

And it’s time consuming to read …

Thanks! Great presentation!

And the verticals articulation of writing instruction is so important

Thank you!

*vertical

@Sherry…write often, write more, and write without always grading or even reading it

Thank you so much!

If we take the time to let them experiment, it becomes fun.

Debra, It is so nice to hear your voice. :)

As you write more, then you can start to fine tune what they are doing and they are engaged more and fighting the writing less.

Wonderful webinar, Marty! I took loads of notes. Super helpful!

Its a routine that my students have come to enjoy!

Yes thank you! Bye everyone

Thank you!!!