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Reviving and Reinventing Sentence-Level Writing Instruction (Martin Brandt) - Shared screen with speaker view
Sheri Zoratti
33:12
What school, Jennifer?
Jennifer Fletcher
33:28
Pacific HS—one year. 🙂
Sheri Zoratti
33:47
My husband graduated from Pacifica
Jennifer Fletcher
34:05
Neat connection! My cousins went there.
Ani Hyman
34:10
LOVING ALL YOUR BANNERS :)
Charlene lindemulder
34:51
Live or virtual?
Meline Akashian
34:54
In person, yay.
Jan Adkins
35:14
Hi Marty!!
Valerie McAuliffe
35:43
That's where I grew up and my bro went to school! :)
Charlene lindemulder
35:55
The book is awesome!
Maya Bornstein (she/her)
36:05
👏
Jennifer Fletcher
36:28
Love _Between the Commas_!
Jyothi Bathina (pronounced JOE-THI)
37:14
yay English teachers!
Charlene lindemulder
38:02
Just the grading is daunting; teaching writing is enjoyable
Debra Robinson
39:09
I agree Charlene. Love the teaching!
Debra Robinson
39:39
I agree Charlene. Love the teaching!
Amy Gottesfeld
40:35
I wonder if the SF State class was with Catherine Lucas??? I learned a lot from her!
Charlene lindemulder
41:00
Char Lindemulder, Chino Hills HS (sent the roll call text to the wrong group 🙁)
Meline Akashian
41:42
For roll call -- Meline Akashian at Temecula Middle
Mariam Ogle
41:57
Mariam Ogle Fresno here :)
Pat McGrath (she/her)
41:59
#1 problem is students don't believe they can ever learn to write well. So they give up.
Jlynn Davis
42:51
Hello from Jlynn Davis and Julie Royal East Side Union High School District.☺️
Randall Melton
43:57
Randy Melton from Prospect High School, Campbell Union High School District
Endow, Raymond
44:36
Raymond Endow from Gardena Senior High School, LAUSD
Clare Chatfield
44:55
Clare Chatfield from Del Mar High in CUHSD. Hi Randy!
Chris Garcia
44:58
Good afternoon from Chris Garcia at Silver Creek High School, East Side Union High School District
Denise Rawlings-Shinn
45:40
Denise Rawlings Village Academy Hs Pomona Ca
Meline Akashian
46:04
Love these three pillars. I can see their practical application already.
Denise Rawlings-Shinn
46:06
Norma Contreras, Village Academy, Pomona, CA
Randall Melton
46:48
I have not yet read the book, so this is great.
Olsen.C
46:51
Thank you for the overview, I have not read the book.
Mark Kavanagh
47:00
Mark Kavanagh
Tracey Anderson
47:05
Tracey Anderson from Florin High School (
Tracey Anderson
47:17
Elk Grove Unified
Mark Kavanagh
47:21
Mark Kavanagh, Los Angeles. Will definitely get the book.
Mr. Wright
48:10
Josh Wright Juniper Elementary Redding CA. Thank you spent some years at SF State myself.
Jyothi Bathina (pronounced JOE-THI)
48:18
Will have to leave, I’m afraid. Thank you Marty, I look forward to seeing the recording and reading the book!
Alejandra
50:45
Alejandra from Mt. San Antonio Community College in Walnut
Randall Melton
52:38
That has been my experience: they try to please us and comply.
Maria Orfanos
53:21
What’s the title of the book being referenced?
Debra Robinson
55:04
The book is Democracy in America.
Jennifer Fletcher
55:39
Marty’s book is _Between the Commas_ from Heinemann.
C. Castro Birch HS
55:50
snickerdish
Pat McGrath (she/her)
56:05
Widgets!
Sheri Zoratti
56:52
And I still have Open House tonight!
Alejandra
56:53
It’s fascinating!
Marlene (she/her)
57:01
What other ways to help them with that 1st sentence?
Marlene (she/her)
57:11
Some don’t have creativity for a “hook” yet
Charlene lindemulder
57:19
I think part of the issue is that students try to put the thesis into only 1 sentence when they may need a few sentences. Do you find that true as well?
Marlene (she/her)
57:39
^ yes
Randall Melton
57:58
Image Grammar includes a great lesson for developing effective leads.
Joe Calabrese
58:00
All of you teachers and presenters rock!! Bless you all!! :-)
Sheri Zoratti
58:35
Yes Charlene. Definitely.
Pat McGrath (she/her)
59:06
Your topic must be one sentence. Your thesis must be one sentence. It must be at the beginning of the paragraph. You cannot start a sentence with "because." Every essay must be exactly 5 paragraphs long. So many pseudo-rules!
Alberto Vaca
59:51
You had me at phrases
Sherry Swanson
59:51
How do we begin to reprogram our students’ writing habits?
Jaclyn Smith
59:59
These phrases & clauses make writing come alive!
Randall Melton
01:00:00
Image Grammar is by Harry Noden, and my students’ writing improves some every year when I use it— for leads and other descriptive techniques.
Marlene (she/her)
01:00:24
^ Thanks!
Christina Elliott
01:01:14
Helpful source: "Sentence Composing for High School" by Don Killgallon
Jaclyn Smith
01:01:33
Yes, Christina, that’s such a helpful source.
Meline Akashian
01:04:02
Yes, all the Killgallon books are crazy useful for all levels.
Debra Robinson
01:04:13
The Killgallon series has great sentence combining activities as well
Meline Akashian
01:06:34
I will be using the Left Parenthetical Right graphic organizer tomorrow. thanks for this.
Alejandra
01:09:01
Yay!
Marlene (she/her)
01:09:07
^ is this available somewhere?
Sheri Zoratti
01:09:10
Yep :)
Alberto Vaca
01:09:11
I’m here
Samantha Ferro
01:09:14
Still here.
Olsen.C
01:09:21
Yes!
Lisa Benham-Lewis
01:09:22
Still here!
Randall Melton
01:09:27
Great stuff
Charlene lindemulder
01:09:43
Yes, but it’s helpful to begin with a model
C. Castro Birch HS
01:09:46
I always do because it's funnier that way.
Charlene lindemulder
01:09:50
That’s your book
Sheri Zoratti
01:09:50
Haha I was just going to ask if you have digital copies of any of the exercises in the book.
Sherry Swanson
01:09:51
yes
Ana Lee
01:09:52
Yes
Lonée Lona
01:09:52
yes! has to be authentic to the teaching moment
Mariam Ogle
01:09:58
Yes, this is great I am wondering about using text to speech somewhere in here to help them make the speech complexity to text complexity connections
Meline Akashian
01:10:43
Get students to pick cool sentences as they read whatever book you are in, and use them to collectively analyze what makes that sentence so cool. Then use it for modeling.
Marlene (she/her)
01:11:58
^ I use student writing as my models and do this. Praise the positive moves some are already doing.
Mariam Ogle
01:12:00
Yes Meline woven into whatever we are working with
Charlene lindemulder
01:12:51
Yes, student find the “golden lines” in their writing to share. Text-to-text with eRWC
Jaclyn Smith
01:13:13
I, likewise, type up golden lines from student essays & we talk about them when we discuss class feedback. Great way for students to see how many people express similar ideas.
Christine Anderson
01:13:17
This is fabulous! I need to leave early for another commitment.
Debra Robinson
01:13:59
I’ve noted your question Mariam.
Ani Hyman
01:18:36
lol
Sheri Zoratti
01:18:39
I get it.
Charlene lindemulder
01:18:41
Error is an indication that there’s movement in the learning
Pat McGrath (she/her)
01:18:49
Hehe....I'm in danger!
Sheri Zoratti
01:18:56
I failed English? UMPOSSIBLE!
Sheri Zoratti
01:19:50
I think I got that wrong haha. But close enough.
Tracy Rauschkolb
01:20:21
I get your jokes and connections, but I am of a certain age. lol
Lonée Lona
01:21:30
Also, can’t we argue that it’s not an error, it’s a matter of writing style? if that student was an author, we would not question that second example
Irene Clark
01:22:58
Many of my students have difficulty detecting comma splices. If I point them out, they can fix them
Irene Clark
01:23:18
I have another meeting. But thank you.
LaRae Blomquist
01:23:54
Are these inventive names for phrases in the book as well?
Debra Robinson
01:24:05
Yes they are.
Charlene lindemulder
01:25:39
How much time do spend at the sentence level each semester?
Charlene lindemulder
01:26:01
*do you
Marlene (she/her)
01:26:06
Whoa! That hour went fast! Thanks!
Samantha Ferro
01:26:21
Good question.
Mariam Ogle
01:27:54
Yes Debra exactly
Marlene (she/her)
01:27:54
I have a student who prefers speech-to-text so he can show what he knows…without the writing hinderance
Sherry Swanson
01:28:06
Post Covid-crisis instruction- How do we begin to reprogram our students’ writing habits?
LaRae Blomquist
01:28:07
Do you find your students being able to independently point out those author moves when they come across them in their readings?
Alberto Vaca
01:28:09
You mentioned you’re in a blog? Is there a community attached to it?
Marlene (she/her)
01:28:12
So much better writing, and I can see him apply the sentence structure I am teaching.
Gloria Dumler
01:28:13
Thanks!
Joe Calabrese
01:28:34
Thank you! Great stuff! ;-)
Marlene (she/her)
01:28:44
He has vision and writing processing issues.
Ana Benich
01:28:50
Do you see a place for platforms like Quill?
Charlene lindemulder
01:28:57
Do you get push back from your department with the names of syntax you use with kids?
Alisa Klink
01:28:59
Great presentation! Thank you!!
Endow, Raymond
01:29:00
Thank you for all the great examples!
Mariam Ogle
01:29:13
I love the new names for grammar moves it gives students power and ownership over it
Christina Elliott
01:29:16
Helpful information and fodder for the remainder of this year and beyond.
Sherry Swanson
01:29:39
Post-Covid crisis instruction: How do we begin to reprogram our students’ writing habits?
Anna-Eunhee Lee Chee
01:29:40
Thank you so much for sharing your strategies! they are great!
Miryam Rivera-Aguilar
01:29:48
Thank you!
Christina Elliott
01:29:53
Common language in the English Dept. is very helpful, but not absolutely necessary.
Nancy Brynelson
01:29:58
Wanted to say hi! Great webinar! Miss you 🙂
Cowley_Guadalupe
01:30:02
Thank you. This was an awesome presentation👏
Charlene lindemulder
01:30:03
@Sherry, good question
Gretchen Larese
01:30:07
Thank you! I was wondering the same question.
Sheri Zoratti
01:30:17
Thank you Marty! This was great. Really enjoyable.
Charlene lindemulder
01:30:22
Thank you!!!
Gretchen Larese
01:30:22
I’m in the same department with Marty. Lol!
LaRae Blomquist
01:30:24
We were just talking about how often grammar instruction happens annually without it really being "owned" by kids. It seems like this offers them a basic sentence as the schema for which students hang new learning on.
Randall Melton
01:30:28
Unrelated to the subject, when. Did Jonathan Lovell pass away?
Ana Benich
01:30:28
What do you think about Quill.com?
Mariam Ogle
01:30:28
They will be ready for the precise word later when they are familiar and can introduce both together
Alex Gallegos
01:30:29
Thank you!
cwiedmeier
01:30:30
how can we get the recording of this presentation?
Maycock Mary
01:30:33
Thank you!
Matsumura, Jeffrey
01:30:33
Thank you
Mariam Ogle
01:30:33
Thank you!
Jaclyn Smith
01:30:37
Thank you, Marty! Awesome way to spend Thursday afternoon!
Trudy Pellizzari
01:30:39
What a great way to spend an hour!! Thank you!
Ana Lee
01:30:39
Thank you
Evans.N
01:30:42
Thank you!!
Lonée Lona
01:30:43
Thank you—really needed to take some time to think about this.
Ani Hyman
01:30:45
Thank you so much for this opportunity :)
Randall Melton
01:30:45
Sorry to hgerR
Angela Ali
01:30:48
Thank you.
Lisa Benham-Lewis
01:30:49
Thank you so much!
Randall Melton
01:30:49
HEAR
Glen McClish
01:30:50
I appreciate your focus on craft!
Jennifer Fletcher
01:30:52
So good to see you here!
Laura Plaisance
01:30:54
Thanks. So worth the visit!
Clare Chatfield
01:30:55
Thank you--that was great.
Sheri Zoratti
01:30:56
We should preface our questions with ??? or something to make it easier to see. Oh well, too late!
Pat McGrath (she/her)
01:31:07
Will we be able to get the recording?
Gretchen Larese
01:31:10
Thank you!
Ana Benich
01:31:20
Sorry, really wondering about your thoughts about Quill.com
Pat McGrath (she/her)
01:31:26
THis was excellent!
161013
01:31:26
Thank you!
LaRae Blomquist
01:31:29
Thank you so much!
Alberto Vaca
01:31:31
Thanks!
Ana Benich
01:31:51
grammar writing
Ana Benich
01:32:06
can you unmute me
cwiedmeier
01:32:06
I use quill.org and I like it
Mariam Ogle
01:32:08
-Sheri had a question
Marlene (she/her)
01:32:15
??? Next week is about difficult discussions in the classroom? Please tell me more.
Sharon Fernandes
01:32:27
Thank you!! Debra thank you for sending the correct link
Debra Robinson
01:33:15
Hi Marlene, please email me at darobin42@gmail.com, and I will make sure you receive information on the session.
Mariam Ogle
01:33:20
Sheri Zoratti- what was your question? About prefacing questions
Sherry Swanson
01:33:29
Post-Covid Crisis Instruction Q: How do we begin to “reprogram” our students’ writing habits?
cwiedmeier
01:33:30
will we be able to rewatch this recording?
Olsen.C
01:33:53
Thank you!
Gretchen Larese
01:33:53
I have used NoRedInk to help students with sentence structure, but I get to read their work in the quick write section.
Randall Melton
01:33:54
Yes, Sherry!
C. Castro Birch HS
01:34:12
Thanks
Mariam Ogle
01:34:25
Awesome thank you for letting us record and watch again later!
Alberto Vaca
01:34:52
ERWC started me on my quest to teach grammar. Many years ago. It was presented that a survey of college professors indicated that the #1 things college professors wishes high school teachers would teach us grammar.
Mariam Ogle
01:34:52
That is so true about not a lot of instruction in writing
Gretchen Larese
01:34:53
And it’s time consuming to read …
Nancy Brynelson
01:35:01
Thanks! Great presentation!
Mariam Ogle
01:35:14
And the verticals articulation of writing instruction is so important
Ana Benich
01:35:17
Thank you!
Mariam Ogle
01:35:33
*vertical
Marlene (she/her)
01:35:45
@Sherry…write often, write more, and write without always grading or even reading it
Chris Garcia
01:35:48
Thank you so much!
Randall Melton
01:35:52
If we take the time to let them experiment, it becomes fun.
Chris Garcia
01:35:58
Debra, It is so nice to hear your voice. :)
Marlene (she/her)
01:36:22
As you write more, then you can start to fine tune what they are doing and they are engaged more and fighting the writing less.
Jennifer Fletcher
01:36:34
Wonderful webinar, Marty! I took loads of notes. Super helpful!
Marlene (she/her)
01:36:59
Its a routine that my students have come to enjoy!
Mariam Ogle
01:37:00
Yes thank you! Bye everyone
Marlene (she/her)
01:37:02
Thank you!!!