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CRT PLC, Fall 2017 sessions - Shared screen with speaker view
Fresno Joe
18:53
Course Redesign rocked the OLC Innovate conference in FL, as far as I could tell from Twitter. Nice job!
Brett Christie
19:56
@Joe: Yes, especially Cal Poly Pomona redesign group bringing home some hardware!!
Brett Christie
20:34
Huge issue of home and food insecurity with many CSU students
Brett Christie
21:20
Nice infographic from SJSU
Brett Christie
21:47
As always, we will post and circulate slides and recording link after the session.
Shirley Yap
22:15
Compelling statistics!!!
Brett Christie
24:02
These are people on your campus who can help you…not just your CRT Campus Coordinator.
mary paul
24:57
I hope Advising Services is aware of this conversation
Brett Christie
25:47
Of course, Dennis Dahlquist is there!
Sharon Furtak
26:05
I was thinking the same thing! ;)
Shirley Yap
26:56
Cute
mary paul
27:15
it would be great if Advising Centers had a list of adopting faculty
Brett Christie
27:26
http://als.csuprojects.org
Brett Christie
27:52
Nice dive-in-by-role portals on the new AL$ site!
Fresno Joe
30:08
Fresno State faculty showcase link is directing to a CSUDH page…
Brett Christie
30:33
The pictures are great; Affect comes through even if resolution not ideal!
Brett Christie
31:08
@Joe: I’ll follow-up with Leslie offline on that, thanks
Fresno Joe
32:13
Fresno State’s “Be a Hero” campaign
Shirley Yap
32:25
I’m participating, but I’d like to get even more involved. I like the ALS Ambassadors idea.
Barbara Gonzalez
32:29
CSUF has ALS ambassadors and bookstore notifies faculty about low/no cost options.
Yuhfen Lin
32:36
No. Glad to learn more about it.
mary paul
32:42
for many years! Thank you Vang Vang at Fresno St.
nancyroback
33:01
I would like to participate, but our department selects the text and I don’t think I am allowed to choose a different textbook
danielle gray
33:07
I am not aware of the opportunities, but I use an open source text for my lecture course and am interested in reducing the cost more by adopting a open ed resource for lab as well
Kristen Tudor
33:19
I have not been aware of activities at Sac State - but I saw a colleague in the photo who I’ll reach out to about programs here.
Carlos Torres
33:36
Yes did this at a seminar at SSU, and I am aware. I did not find free texts that were good for my GE course, so instead I only use texts that are rentable but the best in the subject for the price.
Brett Christie
34:49
@Carlos: Glad you have looked into an open source text…more and better available all the time. Rent option can make a big difference for students.
mary paul
35:00
You can reach out to your campus rep and explain the textbooks your Dept is requiring. The rep may offer alternatives that you can propose to your Dept.
Brett Christie
35:19
http://www.merlot.org (MERLOT = Multimedia Educational Resources for Learning and Online Teaching)
Brett Christie
36:30
The peer reviews are by editorial boards. Very thorough and informative and contributes to RTP in many cases.
Brett Christie
36:51
http://cool4ed.org
Brett Christie
39:26
http://webwork.maa.org/
Brett Christie
40:56
Leslie has been such an effective Leader, Champion for AL$!!
Shirley Yap
41:51
Yay ALS!
Brett Christie
41:51
http://libretexts.org/
Brett Christie
42:18
(there is an “s” in the url that’s not represented in the slides)
Brett Christie
42:50
OpenStax > https://openstax.org/
Shirley Yap
43:15
CSU should be proud about that.
Brett Christie
43:17
Go CSU!! Had no idea
Brett Christie
43:58
zyBooks > www.zybooks.com
Brett Christie
44:18
Top Hat > https://tophat.com/
Brett Christie
44:55
Lumen Waymaker > lumenlearning.com/what/waymaker/
Brett Christie
45:38
VitalSource > https://www.vitalsource.com/
Carlos Torres
47:26
Coming in as a one-time continuing student, I feel like I have had to negotiate between free materials, and value in course texts that have media, test questions, ease of grading resources (so I can spend more time in instruction), etc. I have also created a course reader with PDF articles for only $20 with all my course readings in one course. (60% students want a paper version of articles if available.)
Brett Christie
47:26
@Leslie: Only cause you have so much to share!!
Mark Gondree
47:43
I've adopted a free interactive textbook and my course is now zero-cost
Barbara Gonzalez
47:51
Will use Libretext for an online introductory chemistry course for my project.
Fresno Joe
48:11
@Leslie, I have a negative case study to share about my experience with OER in my CRT class (a warning to others), if we have time to discuss briefly
Brett Christie
48:12
Great, Barbara!
danielle gray
48:14
I currently use OpenStax Chemsitry. I use Sapling Learning as an online HW platform. They work with openstax. I would love to reduce the cost of lab materials as well.
Mark Gondree
48:23
I'm making my own lab manual an Intro to Unix Course, and have interest in making it a LibreText once its stable
Yuhfen Lin
48:47
For the book we are using, I just found out from the textbook representative that they do have a cheaper e-book option for the students.
Chris Endy
48:59
https://openstax.org/ OpenStax has a good US history textbook
danielle gray
49:06
Thinking about writing an in-house lab manual and posting it on tne LMS for students
nancyroback
49:10
I would like to find free materials for my liberal arts chemistry class. I would also like to find lower cost materials for general chemistry.
Shirley Yap
49:14
I’m using free textbooks (active calculus), free homework systems, free activity books, and free coding systems for calculus, linear algebra, and other courses.
Mark Gondree
49:14
We've replaces an expensive Discrete Math textbook with the Zybooks option. Students love it.
Brett Christie
49:18
Great examples, efforts shared by many of you!
aglesser_CSUF_math
49:43
I would definitely like to hear Joe's experience.
danielle gray
49:45
@Nancy.. have you looked into OpenStax?
Sharon Furtak
49:52
Sorry having computer issues. I would like to adopt an open access textbook in my Statistics for Psychology course.
Brett Christie
50:26
@Sharon: have you tried openstax?
Carlos Torres
50:30
Another factor I have had to consider is that I usually teach GE courses, so I have to assemble resources that speak to my discipline in clear, historical contexts where students can clearly grasp my learning objectives even though they may not know anything about my discipline.
danielle gray
50:44
I teach a GE Chem course as well and have not really found anything free that works well for that course yet
Brett Christie
51:34
Good to use same icon since 80% of our students come from CCC
Jeremy Warner
51:42
what about costs such as storage? is that considered in the costs?
Brett Christie
52:49
@Jeremy: Good point. My guess is that storage is a minuscule cost in whole picture compared to cost of a suite of textbooks for a term.
Sharon Furtak
53:33
@Bret, I have but their textbook is very different from the way I current cover and introduce topics. I would need to reformat my course. I am thinking it would be better to pull from multiple places. Ji suggested some good resources.
Shirley Yap
54:32
Impressive statistics.
Brett Christie
54:33
@Sharon: Maybe a customized e-text?
Sharon Furtak
54:40
Really interesting data on Pell vs non-Pell
aglesser_CSUF_math
54:54
Does this study control for the instructor?
danielle gray
55:07
You can customize openstax. Look into odigia which is an auxillary resource that works with openstaz
Sharon Furtak
55:35
Yeah, I think a customized e-text would be best. I am a little concerned of the time it takes to bring it all together. Course redesign is a constant process. :)
Brett Christie
55:40
@aglesser: important research design question. maybe Leslie will have another pause to address questions.
danielle gray
55:51
Odigia is low cost and includes a HW platform and tracks user analytics
Fresno Joe
55:57
I “customized” using OpenStax by asking students to download as many of the different openstax books as I need, and then I assign the relevant chapters in the course schedule in my syllabus. Very little work.
Sharon Furtak
55:58
@Danielle, thanks I will look into that!
Brett Christie
56:08
@Sharon: Buddy up with your ALS contact and/or Instructional Designer (-;
Barbara Gonzalez
56:35
Are the differences statistically significant?
Sharon Furtak
56:55
@Bret, yes definitely need to buddy up
Brett Christie
57:19
@Barbara: Not sure but if it’s same-or-better, that seems significant/important enough, given it is saving costs
Mark Gondree
57:46
when/where?
Mark Gondree
59:07
thanks!
Carolynn Arpin at Chico
01:00:51
Great question/issue, Joe!
apanangadan
01:00:52
May be Fullerton specific - are instructors allowed to choose textbooks for all courses, especially lower-division courses? I think we have to use textbooks approved by a department committee. There have also been changes to our university policies on textbook selection.
Brett Christie
01:00:59
They should be comparing Student Learning (course) Outcomes, not the materials!
Carolynn Arpin at Chico
01:01:52
I'm surprised Joe wasn't contacted directly about his course by the other campus.
Jeremy Warner
01:02:36
If they need to buy materials for their tenure in the program, such as SD cards or an external hard drive, does that count as costs in any course that needs it, only one, or none?
Shirley Yap
01:03:39
Good idea, Joe.
Brett Christie
01:03:44
@Joe: Smart!
Fresno Joe
01:04:41
Thanks for indulging that conversation!
Sharon Furtak
01:05:37
Thank you for the information today. This was very helpful as I move toward open access books for my courses. Especially, the resources out there to support the process.
Jeremy Warner
01:06:19
that's great. thank you
deborahk
01:06:21
Thank you for the information.
deborahk
01:06:39
Statistics on income are startling.
Yuhfen Lin
01:06:53
How about the book store buy back system? The second hand books are still pretty high cost while the buy back didn’t pay much.
Brett Christie
01:07:29
@deborahk: Especially when you consider extreme cost of housing in many areas of our state where most of our campuses happen to be.
Jeremy Warner
01:08:00
the thing I don't understand is that the law states it is the faculty choice to use OER. Wouldn't that mean that the faculty can decide legally and the law trumps the policy?
Brett Christie
01:09:27
@Jeremy: Good point. Sometimes a decision of how much you may or may not want to go against what the department is stating.
Jeremy Warner
01:10:27
I understand, it's an oddly worded law on choice. Thanks for the input.
danielle gray
01:11:34
odigia allows you to edit openstax content and embed videos
Brett Christie
01:11:37
Yes, connect with your AL$ rep to see what support and funding may be available!
Shirley Yap
01:12:03
I’d also love to get that study :-)
Yuhfen Lin
01:12:51
Can you just include that study in the slides when you post it?
aglesser_CSUF_math
01:13:07
I was curious if the study controlled for the instructor?
Brett Christie
01:13:43
Today’s slides are posted @ https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1w--fzlMAo9kbntDhZhg3BEgVmgxuON8jMF7EqUSZSAo/edit#slide=id.g2aebe6916b_3_6
Carlos Torres
01:15:40
Is 12/3 a Sunday?
aglesser_CSUF_math
01:15:57
@Carlos Yes.